The Blog Wars:Little Green Footballs and Ace of Spades- Von Jones

Who is telling the Truther About Truthers?

Charles Johnson of Little Green Footballs has come completely out of the closet with his leftist sympathies by reporting that Von Jones unknowingly signed the Truther document. Somehow Johnson forgot that Truthers lie.

Truther Document ‘Signatories’ Say They Were Misled

As people dig around for incriminating evidence on Van Jones at 9/11 Truther sites and crazy conspiracy sites like the antisemitic, Holocaust-denying rense.com (which, by the way, is not a credible source of information about ), here are a couple of tidbits that tend to back up Jones’ claim that he is not a Truther and signed that infamous under false pretenses.

First, Ben Smith contacted two of the other “signatories” of that document, and learned that they had indeed been misled by the Truthers, and thought they were signing a legitimate document calling for further investigations.

The problem is… first, both of the sources are leftists and quite possibly even Truthers themselves. Keep in mind Truthers lie, especially when it comes to admitting being Truthers.  Second, Ben goes on to list other evidence.

Trutherism-lite, and a second Jones tie

That may be enough for some to disqualify Jones, but it’s certainly somewhat weaker tea than some of the surrounding language, like: the suggestion that “people within the current administration may indeed have deliberately allowed 9/11 to happen, perhaps as a pretext for war.”

HOWEVER, just as that tends to get Jones off the hook slightly, bloggers have turned up another, damning connection to the 9/11 Truth movement: Jones is listed as a member of the “organizing committee” of a march to demand the “truth” behind 9/11.

It’s hard to explain the second one as his having signed off on a statement he misunderstood or as, in the legendary words of the Obama campaign, a “staff error.”

Ace: “Well, either way, Charles Johnson loses.” And I agree.

Correction: Actually Zinn doesn’t say he was “misled,” not exactly. That’s Charles Johnson’s gloss (“lied to”) on the statement. The actual staetment is thus:

“I did not sign a statement suggesting that ‘Bush had prior knowledge.’ I signed a statement calling for an investigation.”This can be taken two ways:

1. He’s claiming an actual bait and switch, induced to sign one petition, then horrified to see his signature appended to a different one. (The Charles Johnson interpretation.)

2. He’s merely disputing what the petition means. He’s claiming it’s just a call for investigations, not a suggestion that Bush had foreknowledge of 9/11 (or that Bush premeditated 9/11). (This is Ben Smith’s belief.)

Well, either way, Charles Johnson loses. If 1 is intended, then Zinn is lying, because he had endorsed Trutherism months earlier on the 911Truth.org website itself. One does not need to be tricked into endorsing what one has already endorsed in one’s own words.

If 2 is intended, Zinn isn’t claiming he was mislead at all, and this helps Astronaut Jones not at all. Zinn is also lying in his revisionist characterization of the petition, because it’s both a call for investigations and a strong suggestion that “Bush Knew.”

In fact, it should be noted that Zinn is doing exactly what Jones is attempting to do: Having signed a petition clearly aligning himself with the craziest conspiracy theorists imaginable, he’s now claiming he either didn’t understand the petition or otherwise failed to pick up on its diamond-clear-and-diamond-hard insinuations.

But this is to be expected; I have it on no lesser authority than Charles Johnson that Truthers lie. Especially about being Truthers, and especially when caught in the spotlight.